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Ben Carson: Compares Same-Sex Marriage to Bestiality

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Ben Carson: Compares Same-Sex Marriage to Bestiality

Ben Carson’s fiery rhetoric over the past two years has included multiple examples of his opposition to LGBT equality.

Marriage : Carson has said that he does not believe marriage equality is a civil right. He has stated that marriage equality is inconsistent with his religious beliefs, and believes that Congress should fire judges who rule in favor of it. He also supported Alabama judges who defied a ruling that granted residents access to same-sex marriage.

Discrimination: Carson defended Gov. Mike Pence’s right to discriminate law. He suggested many discrimination claims are just trumped up “political correctness” and joked that LGBT couples might have their wedding cakes poisoned by anti-equality bakers.

Executive Order: Unclear

Conversion Therapy: Carson suggested that being LGBT was a choice because of “prison.” While he later tried to retract his analogy, he was ambiguous about whether or not he believed being LGBT was a choice, stating that the science was unclear. The belief that sexual orientation and gender identity is a choice is the foundation for discredited “conversion therapy” efforts that has been banned in some states after minors undergoing the so-called “therapy” committed suicide.

Adoption: Declined to support the ability of LGBT couples to adopt children, saying that he wanted to find out first how it impacted the sexual orientation of the children.

Anti-Bullying: Unclear

Harmful Rhetoric : Carson said that supporters of same-sex marriage are intolerant. He also compared same-sex marriage to bestiality and The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) and suggested that same-sex marriage would lead to an “open season” on Christians.

 

Carson’s Notable Quotes on LGBT Equality

Carson Compared Same-Sex Marriage To Bestiality And NAMBLA . During an interview with Sean Hannity, Carson said, “Well, my thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It's a well-established, fundamental pillar of society and no group, be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality, it doesn't matter what they are, they don't get to change the definition. So it's not something that's against gays. It's against anybody who wants to come along and change the fundamental definitions of pillars of society. It has significant ramifications.” [Fox Nation, 4/1/2013 , VIDEO]

Carson Said Prison Proves That Being LGBT Is “Absolutely” A Choice. In an interview with CNN’s New Day: “Asked whether being gay is a choice, Carson responded: ‘Absolutely.’ ‘Because a lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight -- and when they come out, they're gay. So, did something happen while they were in there? Ask you that question,’ Carson said. That argument, Carson said, ‘thwarts’ the notion that homosexuality isn't a choice, which is at odds with the majority of the medical community, including the American Psychological Association, who says ‘most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.’” [CNN, 3/4/2015 ; VIDEO]

 

Carson on the Issues

Marriage Equality: Opposed

Protecting LGBT Americans from Discrimination: Opposed

President Obama’s Executive Orders: Unclear

Ban Harmful “Conversion Therapy” Opposed

LGBT Adoption: Opposed

Anti-Bullying: Unclear

Significant Findings on Marriage Equality

Compared same-sex marriage to bestiality and NAMBLA

Suggested that marriage equality would amount to “extra rights” for LGBT Americans

Said he supported some visitation rights for LGBT couples instead of same-sex marriage

Opposed same-sex marriage as inconsistent with biblical teachings

Committed to opposing same-sex marriage, and says Congress should consider firing judges who rule in favor of same-sex marriage

Supported Alabama judges who defied ruling that gave LGBT couples in Alabama the right to get married

 

Carson Compared Same-Sex Marriage To Bestiality And NAMBLA . During an interview with Sean Hannity, Carson said, “Well, my thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It's a well-established, fundamental pillar of society and no group, be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality, it doesn't matter what they are, they don't get to change the definition. So it's not something that's against gays. It's against anybody who wants to come along and change the fundamental definitions of pillars of society. It has significant ramifications.” [Fox Nation, 4/1/2013 , VIDEO]

Carson Withdrew As Commencement Speaker At John Hopkins University After Controversy Over His Comments Comparing Same-Sex Marriage To Bestiality. According to the Washington Post: Dr. Ben Carson announced Wednesday that he is withdrawing as graduation speaker at Johns Hopkins University, ceding to demands from students concerned about his controversial recent comments about gay marriage. ‘Given all the national media surrounding my statements as to my belief in traditional marriage, I believe it would be in the best interests of the students for me to voluntarily withdraw as your commencement speaker this year,’ Carson said in an e-mail to the dean of the Johns Hopkins medical school, Paul Rothman. ‘My presence is likely to distract from the true celebratory nature of the day. Commencement is about the students and their successes, and it is not about me.’ Carson in a TV interview two weeks ago mentioned bestiality and pedophilia while arguing against gay marriage.”[Washington Post, 4/10/2013 ]

Carson Said He Wasn’t Comparing Same-Sex Marriage To Bestiality, Just Like An Apple Is Not An Orange, But That “Once We Start Changing The Definitions, Then Where Do We Stop?” According to New York Magazine, in an interview with Andrea Mitchell, Carson said, “But what I was basically saying is that there is no group. I wasn't equating those things, I don't think they're equal. Just, you know, if you ask me for apple and I give you an orange you would say, well that's not an orange. And then I say, that's a banana, that's not an apple either. And there's a peach, that's not an apple, either. But it doesn't mean that I'm equating the banana and the orange and the peach. And in the same way I'm not equating those things. My point was that once we start changing the definitions, then where do we stop?”[New York Magazine, 3/29/2013 ; VIDEO]

Carson Apologized For Comparison And He Was Not Comparing LGBT People With Child Predators Or Practitioners Of Bestiality. According to CNN: “Neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who rose to GOP fame in recent months, apologized Friday for appearing to equate homosexuality with the criminal acts of pedophilia and bestiality. ‘I love gay people. I love straight people. So this was really, I think, on my behalf, somewhat insensitive and I certainly apologize if I offended anyone, because I was not in any way comparing gays with people who engage in bestiality or sexual child abuse,’ Carson said on CNN's ‘The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer.’”[CNN, Situation Room, 3/29/2013 ; VIDEO]

Carson: “That Point [Of Bestiality Comment] Was If You Change The Definition For One Group, You’ll Have To Change It For The Next Group And The Next Group.” According to the New York Times, Carson said, “‘When I mention bestiality or pedophilia in the same sentence with homosexuality, people say ‘Carson says they’re the same.’ Of course they’re not the same,’ he said. ‘That point was if you change the definition of marriage for one group, you’ll have to change it for the next group and the next group.’” [New York Times, 12/22/2014 ]

Carson: “I’m Not Sure That It’s Necessary For It To Be Called Marriage For [LGBT People] To Have Equal Rights. Nobody Should Have More Rights Than Anybody Else.” According to CNN: “Carson maintained Friday his opposition to same-sex marriage, but said the rights that come along with being married should be granted to gay and lesbian couples. ‘I'm not sure that it's necessary for it to be called marriage for them to have equal rights. Nobody should have more rights than anybody else,’ Carson said.” [CNN, The Situation Room, 3/29/2013 ]

Carson: “Of Course Gay People Should Have The Same Rights As Everyone Else, But They Don’t Get Extra Rights…They Don’t Get To Redefine Marriage. According to the Huffington Post, in his speech at CPAC, Carson said, “‘As you know, I am not a fan of political correctness,’ Carson told onlookers, drawing cheers. ‘I still believe that marriage is between a man and a woman.’ Carson went on to add that the political world is full of ‘ideologues’ and the only people that can stop them are the American people. While he believes gay people are entitled to their rights, Carson drew the line at ‘extra rights’ that alter the institution of marriage. ‘Of course gay people should have the same rights as everyone else, but they don't get extra rights,’ Carson said. ‘They don't get to redefine marriage.’” [Huffington Post, 3/8/2014 ; VIDEO]

Carson Said He Would Not Be “Intimidated” By Those Calling Him A Homophobe Just Because He Believes In The Strength Of Traditional Marriage. Dr. Carson told the Weekly Standard: “And if you believe that life begins at conception and that that is a wonderful progression from that fertilized egg to a human being who is active and interactive in only nine months time, then you’re anti-woman. And if you believe in traditional families and the strength of traditional marriage then you have to be a homophobe. And of course none of those things are true by any stretch of the imagination, but by stoking those fires, you shut people up and they’re afraid to say what they believe because they don’t want to be labeled with those labels. It’s intimidation, that’s all it is, intimidation. I’ve just decided that I’m not going to be intimidated, and of course they don’t like that very much. And they’ve tried to intimidate me into silence but it’s just not going to work, because the more they do it, the more vocal I’m going to be.” [Weekly Standard, 5/15/2014 ]

Carson Said, “If You Change [Marriage] For One Group, You Have To Change It For All Groups.” In an interview with Charisma News, Carson said, “In the Bible, God compares the marriage relationship with His relationship with the church. I don't think you go around lightly changing that. And it doesn't need to be changed. They can call whatever they're doing whatever they want to call it, but they don't know if you change it for all of society. If you change it for one group, you have to change it for all groups. I've explained that to people. We have to be willing to stand up and say that, not just capitulate.” [Charisma News, 6/19/2014 ]

Carson Said That Demanding Marriage Equality “Is Total Intolerance. It Needs To Be Called Out For What It Is.” In an interview with Charisma News, Carson said, “People have to stand up to them. They are being totally intolerant. I asked a prominent member of the gay community what other position could a person take other than fully agreeing to gay marriage that would be acceptable to them. He thought about it for a while and he said that there is no other position; it's my way or the highway. That is total intolerance. It needs to be called out for what it is. You can do anything you want, but nobody gets to completely change things for everybody else.” [Charisma News, 6/19/2014 ]

Carson Said He Had No Problem With Same-Sex Legal Relationships Including Visitation And Property Rights, But Not Changing The Definition Of Marriage. According to The Blaze: “‘If they want to have [a] legal relationship so that they can have visitation rights and property transfer, I don’t have a problem with that,’ [Carson] said. ‘What I do have a problem with is changing the definition of marriage. This is established by human history of thousands of years.’” [The Blaze, 6/20/2014 ]

Carson Said Supporting Same-Sex Marriage Is Like Calling People Who Think Two Plus Two Equals Four, Not Five, “Mathophobes”, And “People Have To Stand Up To Them. They Are Being Totally Intolerant.” According to The Blaze: “Carson compared calls for an amended definition of marriage to a hypothetical scenario in which a ‘new set of mathematicians … come along and say that two plus two is five.’ Instead of accepting that the answer is four, the people in his analogy begin labeling everyone who disagrees with their new conclusion — that the answer to the equation is actually five — as ‘mathophobes’ or ‘mathists.’ ‘Basically, that’s what happened in our society. People have to stand up to them,’ Carson said. ‘They are being totally intolerant.’” [The Blaze, 6/20/2014 ]

Carson Said It Was “Ridiculous” To Call Him A Homophobe Just Because He Believes Marriage Between A Man And A Woman “Is A Societal Pillar And Has Been There For Thousands Of Years.” In an interview with Newsmax, Carson said, “Well, of course there is. You know, people have to be willing to understand that not everybody thinks the same way that they do. And what they have to be willing to do is engage in conversation. I talk a lot about getting rid of political correctness and replacing it with civil discourse. For instance, let’s take gay marriage. A lot of people say well, Carson’s a homophobe because he believes that marriage is between a man and a woman. That’s ridiculous. Yes, I do believe that it is between a man and a woman, but I don’t believe that anybody gets to change the definition of something that is a societal pillar and has been there for thousands of years. If they want to form some kind of other relationship and call it something else, I don’t have any problem with that. I don’t think I can impose my will on any two consenting adults. They can do what they want to do, I’m not going to try and stop them from doing that. But they don’t get to change the definition.” [Newsmax TV, Midpoint, 6/23/2014 ]

Carson Said Of Those Demanding Marriage Equality: “That Sounds A Little Like Intolerance To Me. It Sounds Like My Way Or The Highway.” In an interview with Newsmax, Carson said, “I asked a prominent individual in the gay community ‘well, what position could a person take who believes in traditional marriage that would be satisfactory to you?’ And after thinking about it for a while, he said, ‘There is no other position. You have to embrace gay marriage. That’s the only position that’s acceptable to us.’ That sounds a little like intolerance to me. It sounds like my way or the highway. I think even though gays suffered a lot of discrimination in the past, and I denounce that in the book. I don’t think that’s the right way to treat anybody, but that doesn’t mean that you get to change everything for everybody else.” [Newsmax TV, Midpoint, 6/23/2014 ]

Carson Said Opponents Of LGBT Rights “Can Be Left Alone, That No One Else Gets To Change Definitions On Them And Change Life For Them….That’s Where The Injustice Comes From.” According to Right Wing Watch, while speaking at the National Organization for Marriage gala: “Carson told the audience that gay-rights opponents are the real victims of ‘injustice’ because they just want to be ‘left alone.’ ‘When we talk about liberty and justice for all, doesn’t that mean that people can be left alone, that no-one else gets to change definitions on them and change life for them?’ he asked. ‘They have no right to say to me that I must change the way I think in order to accommodate what they believe,’ he said. ‘That’s where the injustice comes from, and we have to understand that.’” [Right Wing Watch, 6/27/2014 , VIDEO]

Carson Said If Bible Is Wrong On Same-Sex Marriage, Then Why Isn’t It Wrong On Everything? CNS posted an audio interview of Carson saying, “Well, you know, the bigger issue is, of course, if you can say the Bible is wrong on [same-sex marriage], then, you know, why isn’t it wrong on everything or anything that you don’t want it to say?” [CNS News, 8/4/2014 ; AUDIO]

Carson Said When You Start Distorting The Marriage Relationship, “You’re Really Going Pretty Deep Into The Finger In Your Eye To God.” CNS posted an audio interview of Carson saying, “My emphasis is that marriage is an institution established by God himself, and when you look in the New Testament, you see that the marriage relationship is used to help us understand His relationship with His People. So when you start distorting that, I mean, you’re really going pretty deep into the finger in your eye to God.” [CNS News, 8/4/2014 ; AUDIO]

Carson Said That He Does Not Consider Marriage Equality A Civil Rights Issue, And While He Believes In “Live And Let Live,” He Doesn’t Think Same-Sex Marriage Should Be Allowed. According to Christian Post, in an interview on Larry King’s new web show, Politicking: “When King asked Carson if he considers same-sex marriage to be a ‘civil rights issue,’ Carson replied that he doesn't think it's a civil rights issue, and further added that he believes in the Libertarian idiom of ‘live and let live,’ which is the belief that people should be allowed to live their life any way they see fit. ‘For me, it's not a big issue,’ Carson said. ‘You know, I think any people can do anything they want to do.’ Carson, who's a retired world-renowned neurosurgeon and best-selling author, continued by saying that just because people should be allowed to do as they please, that doesn't grant them the ability to change the definition of marriage, which he personally feels should only be between a man and a woman. ‘It's just that they don't get to redefine everything for anybody else,’ Carson said. ‘So I'm very much a Libertarian in the sense of believing live and let live, but that goes in both directions and some people don't recognize that.’” [Christian Post, 11/14/2014 ]

Carson Said Of Same-Sex Marriage: “I Don’t Hear Any Fat Lady Singing. I Think We Have To Continue To Stand Up For What We Believe In.” According to Politico, on the issue of same-sex marriage: “‘I don’t think it’s over,’ said Ben Carson, the retired Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon who is moving toward a run for president. ‘I don’t hear any fat lady singing. I think we have to continue to stand up for what we believe in.’” [Politico, 1/27/2015 ]

Carson Agreed With Radio Host That Legalized Same-Sex Marriage Would Make It ‘Open Season’ On Christians, Said “Values And Principles Cannot Be Drummed Out Of Us.” According to Talking Points Memo, In an interview with Steve Deace, “Later on in the interview, Carson agreed with Deace that ongoing spread of legalized gay marriage would make it ‘open season on Christians.’ ‘Values and principles cannot be drummed out of us,’ Carson said. ‘They’re going to try, and the only way we maintain a country with values and principles is we have to be brave enough to stand up for what we believe.’” [Talking Points Memo, 1/21/2015 ; AUDIO]

Carson Said In Response To Pro-Marriage Equality Court Rulings That Congress Should Fire Any Federal Judge Whose Rulings Disagree With The Majority In Congress. According to Forbes Magazine: “While speaking to a radio host last week in Iowa, Carson expounded upon his displeasure with the raft of recent rulings by federal courts striking down bans on same-sex marriage due to a finding that the laws were in violation of the United States Constitution—more specifically the Equal Protection Clause in the Fourteenth Amendment. In that interview, Dr. Carson proposed his own solution to these errant judges—Congress should simply fire any judge in the federal system whose rulings on the constitutionality of a particular law, or lack thereof, disagree with the majority view of whomever happens to be in control of Congress.” [Forbes Magazine, 1/28/2015 ]

Carson Said “Congress Actually Has The Right To Reprimand Or Remove” Lower Court Judges Not Acting In An “Appropriate” Way. According to Forbes Magazine, in an interview with radio host Steve Deace, discussing same-sex marriage, Deace asked, “Do our rights really come from God? Or do they come from the mob, do they come from the state?” Carson replied, “I think you’re right about that. The Constitution actually [inaudible] this message. It says that those kinds of matters are in the jurisdiction of the state. That is not a federal issue. And, what the president and what the Supreme Court needs to reiterate is the states have a mechanism whereby they can determine the will of the people. It’s called ballot referendum. It has been done multiple times already. 32 states have indicated that marriage is between a man and a woman, and a few judges have come and overturn that. That, as far as I’m concerned, is unconstitutional. And Congress actually has oversight of what they call the inferior courts, everything below the Supreme Court. That’s where those overturns have come. When judges do not carry out their duties in an appropriate way, our Congress actually has the right to reprimand or remove them. Most people don’t know that because they don’t know the Constitution.” [Forbes Magazine, 1/28/2015 ]

Carson Said Federal Ruling Declaring Alabama’s Same-Sex Marriage Ban Unconstitutional “Is An Example Of Why Such A Matter Should Be Left To State Judges.” ABC News reported that in response to a federal judge’s ruling striking down Alabama’s same-sex marriage ban: “Dr. Ben Carson, the former neurosurgeon and conservative favorite, was by far the most specific of the possible candidates writing in a statement the issue should be left to the states saying, ‘The ruling by Alabama federal Judge Callie Granade to strike down the state's ban on same-sex marriage as unconstitutional is an example of why such a matter should be left to state judges.’” [ABC News, 2/10/2015 ]

Asked If State Judges Should Be Disobeying Federal Marriage Rulings, Carson Said, “Alabama’s Elected Chief Justice Roy Moore Understands The Importance Of Preserving States’ Rights In The Modern Post-Civil War Era” And That Marriage Was A State Issue . ABC News reported that in response to a federal judge’s ruling striking down Alabama’s same-sex marriage ban, Carson said, “‘While these appointed federal officials certainly hold a great deal of knowledge and the ability to make important decisions, the issue of marriage -- an institution that has been so clearly defined and guarded by this nation for centuries -- should be decided upon by the state court as it pertains to that particular state's residents,’ Carson said. ‘Alabama's elected Chief Justice Roy Moore understands the importance of preserving states' rights in the modern post-Civil War world in which we live. This should be a state issue rather than a federal issue because judges at the state level must answer to the people in that state. When judges have no responsibility to the will of the people in the state, they do what they want without any consideration or obligation to the people. That is the reason why the United States Constitution assigns civil matters of this nature to the state.’” [ABC News, 2/10/2015 ]

Carson: “I Support The Right Of Individual States To Sanction Gay Marriage, And I Support The Right Of Individual States To Deny Gay Marriage In Their Respective Jurisdictions.” In a post on Facebook, Carson said, “I support human rights and Constitutional protections for gay people, and I have done so for many years. I support civil unions for gay couples, and I have done so for many years. I support the right of individual states to sanction gay marriage, and I support the right of individual states to deny gay marriage in their respective jurisdictions. I also think that marriage is a religious institution. Religious marriage is an oath before God and congregation. Religious marriage must only be governed by the church. Judges and government must not be allowed to restrict religious beliefs.” [Facebook, Dr. Ben Carson, 3/4/2015 ]

Carson Said He Supported Same-Sex Civil Unions And Recognition Of Same-Sex Marriages In States Where Voters Had Approved It, But Opposed Same-Sex Marriage. In response to the controversy of Carson’s CNN interview equating sexual orientation with prison sex, Carson said, “First, my remark was simply a boneheaded response to what I considered an astonishing ‘gotcha’ question, comparing the civil rights struggles of the Sixties to the efforts to redefine traditional marriage. My poorly considered reflex comment in no way shape or form represents my knowledge or appreciation for the LGBT community. Secondly, the media attention it spawned badly obscured my record and my positions supporting human rights and constitutional protections for the LGBT community. While I remain opposed to same-sex marriage, I have and will continue to support recognition of same-sex civil unions. I have and will continue full recognition of same-sex marriage in State jurisdictions where the matter has been approved by a vote of the people or their representatives; I support States’ prerogatives to determine their own policy without interference from the Federal government; If and when the matter of same-sex marriage is considered and decided by the U.S. Supreme Court, we all must adhere to their decision.” [Facebook.com, Dr. Ben Carson, 3/13/2015 ]

Carson Said The President Does Not Have To Carry Out A Supreme Court Ruling In Favor Of Marriage Equality. According to Talking Points Memo, “Republican presidential candidate and tea party favorite Ben Carson said in an interview with Newsmax that the President of the United States doesn't have to follow the Supreme Court if the high court were to rule in favor of same-sex marriage. ‘First of all, we have to understand how the Constitution works. The president is required to carry out the laws of the land, the laws of the land come from the legislative branch,’ Carson said on Tuesday. ‘So if the legislative branch creates a law or changes a law, the executive branch has a responsibly to carry it out. It doesn’t say they have the responsibility to carry out a judicial law. And that's something we need to talk about.’” [Talking Points Memo, 5/6/2015; VIDEO]


Carson Said Although He Would Disagree With Supreme Court Ruling In Favor Of Marriage Equality, “I Think You Always Have The Obligation To Uphold The Laws Of The Land.” Real Clear Politics reported that “Should the Supreme Court decide this month that state same-sex marriage bans are not constitutional, some Republican presidential candidates plan to push for a constitutional amendment to define marriage as between one man and one woman. But Ben Carson would not be one of them. In an interview Friday with RealClearPolitics, the neurosurgeon and conservative favorite said although he ‘would not be in agreement’ with a ruling to legalize gay marriage nationwide, ‘I think you always have the obligation to uphold the laws of the land.’ ‘My strong belief is that everybody is protected by the Constitution, regardless of their sexual orientation, their race, whatever,’ Carson said. ‘That needs to be our primary focus.’” [Real Clear Politics, 6/19/2015]


Carson Said That “Everybody Is Protected By The Constitution, Regardless Of Their Sexual Orientation” But The Problem With Same-Sex Marriage Was Giving People “Extra Rights.” “‘My strong belief is that everybody is protected by the Constitution, regardless of their sexual orientation, their race, whatever,’ Carson said. ‘That needs to be our primary focus.’ The Supreme Court is expected to decide within the next two weeks whether state bans on gay marriage are constitutional….‘We need not be thinking of providing extra rights to anybody. That’s where you get into problems -- where you pick this group or that group and say, ‘Well, let’s change everything for everybody because you want it that way,’’ Carson said. ‘That’s when you start having problems with America as it was envisioned.’ He added: ‘I would be comfortable with phrasing that said, ‘Everybody in our society has equal rights, and equal rights of association.’’” [Real Clear Politics, 6/19/2015]


Carson: Marriage Is A Religious Service Not A Governmental One. According to USA Today: “Carson also said, ‘I support same sex civil unions but to me, and millions like me, marriage is a religious service not a government form.’” [USA Today, 6/26/2015]


Carson Said Of Marriage Equality Decision “You Can Make A Law To Negate Virtually Anything, You Just Have To Be Creative In The Way That You Do It.” According to Right Wing Watch, “When Conway asked Carson if he thought the decision was “a done deal,” Carson replied that it was not. ‘I hope it will be revisited because the reason that we have separation of powers is to prevent runaway courts, runaway executive branch, runaway legislative branch,” he said. “The laws are made by the legislative branch. And, you know, you can make a law to negate virtually anything, you just have to be creative in the way that you do it. So no, I don’t think it’s over by any stretch of the imagination.’” [Right Wing Watch, 6/29/2015; AUDIO]


Carson Said He “Would Certainly Get Involved” In Undoing Marriage Equality Decision. According to Right Wing Watch, “Carson added that if he were to become president, he ‘would certainly get involved’ in undoing the marriage decision because although he wants to “respect everybody and let everybody do what they want to do,’ if ‘everybody gets the right to change things for their group’ that will lead to ‘chaos.’ Carson also told Conway that the founding fathers certainly did not intend to have ‘people who are appointed and not elected making decisions about the lifestyle of the people.’” [Right Wing Watch, 6/29/2015; AUDIO]


Carson Signed National Organization’s Marriage Pledge. According to NOM, Carson was one of 4 candidates to sign their marriage pledge. NOM says “These are the candidates you can count on to support a constitutional amendment protecting marriage; work to overturn the illegitimate Obergefell ruling imposing gay 'marriage' on the nation; prevent the push of this illegitimate ruling throughout government including the public schools; work for the passage of the First Amendment Defense Act; and direct the Department of Justice to investigate attempts to harass marriage supporters.” [National Organization For Marriage, Marriage Pledge, Accessed 9/9/2015]


Carson Said The “Natural Next Question” Caused By Marriage Equality Was Whether Marriage Had To Between Two People, Because “If You Change The Definition Of Marriage For One Group What Defense Do You Have For The Next Group That Comes Along And Wants It Changed?” Buzzfeed reported that speaking to radio host Eric Metaxes, “Ben Carson says he believes the acceptance of same-sex marriage could to lead to the definition of marriage changing to allow more than two partners and said more changes could follow. …. ‘The other thing you have to recognize and this is a very important issue,’ said Carson. ‘If you change the definition of marriage for one group what defense do you have for the next group that comes along and wants it changed. Can you say, ‘no we’re just changing it this one time and it will this way for forever.’ Well, how is that fair? I mean, it doesn’t make any sense.’ When Metaxes said allowing same-sex marriage would open up debate on the idea that marriage has to between two people, Carson said, ‘That’s the natural next question and on it goes from there.’” [Buzzfeed, 10/13/2015; AUDIO]

Significant Findings on Discrimination Protections for LGBT Americans 

Suggested that discrimination lawsuits amount to “political correctness”

Defended Gov. Mike Pence’s “Right to Discriminate” law as “vital”

 

Carson Said Of Those Demanding Marriage Equality: “That Sounds A Little Like Intolerance To Me. It Sounds Like My Way Or The Highway.” In an interview with Newsmax, Carson said, “I asked a prominent individual in the gay community ‘well, what position could a person take who believes in traditional marriage that would be satisfactory to you?’ And after thinking about it for a while, he said, ‘There is no other position. You have to embrace gay marriage. That’s the only position that’s acceptable to us.’ That sounds a little like intolerance to me. It sounds like my way or the highway. I think even though gays suffered a lot of discrimination in the past, and I denounce that in the book. I don’t think that’s the right way to treat anybody, but that doesn’t mean that you get to change everything for everybody else.” [Newsmax TV, Midpoint, 6/23/2014 ]

Carson Said Of Houston Equal Rights Ordinance “One Of The Great Dangers In America Today Is Extreme Intolerance In The Name Of Tolerance.” In a blog post, Carson wrote: “We as Americans must guard every aspect of our Constitution and recognize when it is being threatened. One of the great dangers in America today is extreme intolerance in the name of tolerance. For example, in this Houston case, it is presupposed that the pastors in question may have said something that was objectionable to the homosexual community. In order to prove that we are tolerant of the homosexual lifestyle, we as a society allow gays to be intolerant of anyone who disagrees with them in any way.” [RadixNews, Ben Carson, 10/23/2014]

Carson Said Houston Equal Rights Ordinance Goes Beyond “Homosexual Rights” And Was “An Egregious Assault On All Americans.” In a blog post, Carson wrote: “The Houston issue goes far beyond free speech and homosexual rights. It warns us of what can happen if we are not vigilant in guarding our hard-fought freedoms. Fortunately, a firestorm of immediate protests appears to have at least temporarily rolled back this egregious assault on all Americans, whether they realize it or not. We can never allow civil authorities to censor or control the content of religious sermons, or we will eventually become a completely different country with far fewer rights than we currently enjoy. Freedom is not free, and those who do not zealously guard it will lose it.” [RadixNews, Ben Carson, 10/23/2014]

Carson Said That Same-Sex Couples Shouldn’t Ask For Cakes From Anti-Equality Bakers Because They Might Poison The Cake. The Hill reported: “Carson also criticized political correctness as he answered a question about gay marriage — and followed up by flaunting decorum with the type of comment that endears him with the base but could hurt his cross-party appeal. ‘What I have a problem with is when people try to force people to act against their beliefs because they say 'they're discriminating against me.' So they can go right down the street and buy a cake, but no, let's bring a suit against this person because I want them to make my cake even though they don't believe in it. Which is really not all that smart because they might put poison in that cake,’ he said to chuckles from some of his staff and dead silence from the journalists in the room.” [The Hill, 1/24/2015 ]

Carson Said It Was “Absolutely Vital” That Americans Support Mike Pence’s Right To Discriminate RFRA Law. According to Breitbart, “Speaking about the Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act—which has drawn fire from the left—Carson said the First Amendment is one of the basic pillars and a founding principle of the nation. ‘It is absolutely vital that we do all we can to allow Americans to practice their religious ways, while simultaneously ensuring that no one’s beliefs infringe upon those of others. We should also serve as champions of freedom of religion throughout the world,’ Carson tells Breitbart News. He notes that individuals committing horrific acts of intolerance are persecuting people across the world because of religion. ‘As Americans, we have an obligation to denounce these acts of persecution. For when we stand up to such intolerance, we are defending the root of our freedom, both at home and abroad,’ he said.” [Breitbart News, 3/30/2015 ]

Carson Said He Would Like To See “As Much Emphasis On The Rights Of Christians…As There Is To Some Of The Other Groups.” According to CNN, “While he called for LGBT rights to remain a private issue, Carson called for a ‘much greater conversation about Christians and their rights.’…. Religious discrimination, like discrimination on the basis of race or gender, is protected under the Constitution. Sexual orientation is not protected under the Constitution and LGBT groups are pushing for anti-discrimination laws tailored to protect members of that community. Carson would not say whether he thinks religious groups or LGBT individuals received more protections under the law. ‘I would like to see as much emphasis on the rights of Christians and people who are members of the faith community as there is to some of the other groups,’ he said. ‘The important thing is for us as a nation to recognize that all citizens of the United Sates are protected by our constitution. We need to stop deciding that one group versus another group is the flavor of the day and we need to do things that provide for justice and liberty for everybody.’” [CNN, New Day, 4/9/2015; VIDEO]


Carson Said Civil Rights And LGBT Rights Were Different Because LGBT People Didn’t Have To Use Separate Drinking Fountains. “I was a little bit irritated that he was equating the whole [homosexuality] issue with the Civil Rights movement, because, quite frankly, I didn't remember any times when there were signs up that says, you know, 'everybody else here and gay people have to drink at this fountain,'” Carson said in an interview on Fox News. [Fox News, Special Report with Bret Baier, 6/10/2015; VIDEO]

Carson Refused To Say Whether LGBT Americans Faced Discrimination, Saying “Everybody Probably Has Somebody Who Discriminates Against Them” And Asking To Talk About “Something More Important.” In an interview on CNN, Carson responded to the question of whether LGBT Americans are discriminated against by saying“‘I made my opinion quite clear on this issue. I think the Constitution protects every single American. Everybody has equal rights, not extra rights.’ KEILAR: ‘I’m asking you then if you think gay Americans are protected from being discriminated against and do they face discrimination? Do you think they do?’ CARSON: ‘Everybody should be protected against discrimination. Can we move on to something more important?’ KEILAR:  ‘No, you haven’t answered my question. You haven’t answered, are gay Americans discriminated against? It’s a very simple question. I’m asking to you clarify your remarks.’ CARSON: ‘I just said everybody needs to be protected from discrimination. Everybody probably has somebody who discriminates against them because there are people with small minds who think that way.’” [CNN, 6/11/2015; VIDEO]

Carson Confidante Said Carson Said that Obergefell Ruling “Is The Law Of The Land And That’s What He Respects.” According to Talking Points Memo, “A well-known confidante of Dr. Ben Carson said Tuesday that questions about the candidate's views on a Kentucky clerk's refusal to grant marriage licenses to gay couples are just ‘trying to create something that's new.’ ‘Dr. Carson has said since the Supreme Court ruling that it is the law of land and that's what he respects,’ a highly agitated Armstrong Williams told TPM in a phone interview.” [Talking Points Memo, 9/1/2015]


Carson Signed National Organization’s Marriage Pledge. According to NOM, Carson was one of 4 candidates to sign their marriage pledge. NOM says “These are the candidates you can count on to support a constitutional amendment protecting marriage; work to overturn the illegitimate Obergefell ruling imposing gay 'marriage' on the nation; prevent the push of this illegitimate ruling throughout government including the public schools; work for the passage of the First Amendment Defense Act; and direct the Department of Justice to investigate attempts to harass marriage supporters.” [National Organization For Marriage, Marriage Pledge, Accessed 9/9/2015]

Significant Findings on Dangerous “Conversion Therapy”

Said “prison” proves that being LGBT is a choice, rhetoric similar to that used by conversion therapy advocates, but opposed by most in the medical community

 

Carson Said Prison Proves That Being LGBT Is “Absolutely” A Choice. In an interview with CNN’s New Day: “Asked whether being gay is a choice, Carson responded: ‘Absolutely.’ ‘Because a lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight -- and when they come out, they're gay. So, did something happen while they were in there? Ask yourself that question,’ Carson said. That argument, Carson said, ‘thwarts’ the notion that homosexuality isn't a choice, which is at odds with the majority of the medical community, including the American Psychological Association, who says ‘most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.’” [CNN, 3/4/2015 ; VIDEO]

Carson Walked Back CNN Statement, Saying There Were No Definitive Studies Showing People Are Born Into A Specific Sexuality, But “We Are Always Born Male And Female” And Deserving Of Respect. In a Facebook post, Carson responded to the controversy caused by his comments on CNN by saying, “In a recent interview on CNN, I realized that my choice of language does not reflect fully my heart on gay issues. I do not pretend to know how every individual came to their sexual orientation. I regret that my words to express that concept were hurtful and divisive. For that I apologize unreservedly to all that were offended. I'm a doctor trained in multiple fields of medicine, who was blessed to work at perhaps the finest institution of medical knowledge in the world. Some of our brightest minds have looked at this debate, and up until this point there have been no definitive studies that people are born into a specific sexuality. We do know, however, that we are always born male and female. And I know that we are all made in God's image, which means we are all deserving of respect and dignity.” [Facebook, Dr. Ben Carson, 3/4/2015 ]

Carson Said He Regretted ‘Prison Comments’ And That He Does Not “Pretend To Know How Every Individual Came To Their Sexual Orientation” But There Is “No Definitive Study” That People Are Born Into Sexual Orientation. Newsmax reported after the backlash to Carson’s prison comments, “Hours later, Carson issued a formal apology in which he stated that he ‘realized that my choice of language does not reflect fully my heart on gay issues,’ reported Bloomberg News. ‘I do not pretend to know how every individual came to their sexual orientation. I regret that my words to express that concept were hurtful and divisive. For that I apologize unreservedly to all that were offended,’ Carson's statement read. Still, Carson said that the jury is still out on the question of how a person's sexual orientation is determined. ‘Some of our brightest minds have looked at this debate, and up until this point there have been no definitive studies that people are born into a specific sexuality,’ the statement he provided to CNN read.” [Newsmax, 3/5/2015]

Carson Said LGBT Rights Was “A Personal Issue” And Said Conversion Therapy “Should Be Left To Therapists And To Individuals. I Don’t Think It’s Anybody Else’s Business.” “The neurosurgeon insisted Thursday on CNN's ‘New Day’ that the topic [of LGBT rights] is ‘a personal issue’ that should be left to private forums -- not discussed in a public forum like the media. ‘It seems to be a topic -- a person's sexual orientation -- that is of fair amount of concern to you. I don't find it to be anywhere near as interesting,’ Carson said Thursday. ‘I think it's a personal issue and we ought to leave it as a personal issue.’ ‘Leave...the personal issues to the personal people,’ Carson added. Carson also refused to share his views in the widely discredited practice of gay conversion therapy, which is intended to make gay people feel heterosexual. The White House officially announced Wednesday it supports banning the practice. ‘That kind of thing should be left to therapists and to individuals. I don't think it's anybody else's business,’ Carson said.” [CNN, New Day, 4/9/2015; VIDEO]

Carson Refused To Say Whether LGBT Americans Faced Discrimination, Saying “Everybody Probably Has Somebody Who Discriminates Against Them” And Asking To Talk About “Something More Important.” In an interview on CNN, Carson responded to the question of whether LGBT Americans are discriminated against by saying“‘I made my opinion quite clear on this issue. I think the Constitution protects every single American. Everybody has equal rights, not extra rights.’ KEILAR: ‘I’m asking you then if you think gay Americans are protected from being discriminated against and do they face discrimination? Do you think they do?’ CARSON: ‘Everybody should be protected against discrimination. Can we move on to something more important?’ KEILAR:  ‘No, you haven’t answered my question. You haven’t answered, are gay Americans discriminated against? It’s a very simple question. I’m asking to you clarify your remarks.’ CARSON: ‘I just said everybody needs to be protected from discrimination. Everybody probably has somebody who discriminates against them because there are people with small minds who think that way.’” [CNN, 6/11/2015; VIDEO]

Significant Findings on Rhetoric and Intolerance

Compared same-sex marriage to bestiality and NAMBLA

Suggested “political correctness” was turning America into Nazi Germany

Said supporters of marriage equality were intolerant; denied that his views made him a homophobe

Suggested that federal same-sex marriage would lead to “open season” on Christians

 

Carson Compared Same-Sex Marriage To Bestiality And NAMBLA . During an interview with Sean Hannity, Carson said, “Well, my thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It's a well-established, fundamental pillar of society and no group, be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality, it doesn't matter what they are, they don't get to change the definition. So it's not something that's against gays. It's against anybody who wants to come along and change the fundamental definitions of pillars of society. It has significant ramifications.” [Fox Nation, 4/1/2013 , VIDEO]

Carson Withdrew As Commencement Speaker At John Hopkins University After Controversy Over His Comments Comparing Same-Sex Marriage And Bestiality. According to the Washington Post: Dr. Ben Carson announced Wednesday that he is withdrawing as graduation speaker at Johns Hopkins University, ceding to demands from students concerned about his controversial recent comments about gay marriage. ‘Given all the national media surrounding my statements as to my belief in traditional marriage, I believe it would be in the best interests of the students for me to voluntarily withdraw as your commencement speaker this year,’ Carson said in an e-mail to the dean of the Johns Hopkins medical school, Paul Rothman. ‘My presence is likely to distract from the true celebratory nature of the day. Commencement is about the students and their successes, and it is not about me.’ Carson in a TV interview two weeks ago mentioned bestiality and pedophilia while arguing against gay marriage.” [Washington Post, 4/10/2013 ]

Carson Said He Wasn’t Comparing Same-Sex Marriage To Bestiality, Just Like An Apple Is Not An Orange, But That “Once We Start Changing The Definitions, Then Where Do We Stop?” According to New York Magazine, in an interview with Andrea Mitchell, Carson said, “But what I was basically saying is that there is no group. I wasn't equating those things, I don't think they're equal. Just, you know, if you ask me for apple and I give you an orange you would say, well that's not an orange. And then I say, that's a banana, that's not an apple either. And there's a peach, that's not an apple, either. But it doesn't mean that I'm equating the banana and the orange and the peach. And in the same way I'm not equating those things. My point was that once we start changing the definitions, then where do we stop?” [New York Magazine, 3/29/2013 ; VIDEO]

Carson Apologized For Comparison And He Was Not Comparing LGBT People With Child Predators Or Practitioners Of Bestiality. According to CNN: “Neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who rose to GOP fame in recent months, apologized Friday for appearing to equate homosexuality with the criminal acts of pedophilia and bestiality. ‘I love gay people. I love straight people. So this was really, I think, on my behalf, somewhat insensitive and I certainly apologize if I offended anyone, because I was not in any way comparing gays with people who engage in bestiality or sexual child abuse,’ Carson said on CNN's ‘The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer.’” [CNN, Situation Room, 3/29/2013 ; VIDEO]

Carson Said “That Point [Of Bestiality Comment] Was If You Change The Definition For One Group, You’ll Have To Change It For The Next Group And The Next Group.” According to the New York Times, Carson said, “‘When I mention bestiality or pedophilia in the same sentence with homosexuality, people say ‘Carson says they’re the same.’ Of course they’re not the same,’ he said. ‘That point was if you change the definition of marriage for one group, you’ll have to change it for the next group and the next group.’” [New York Times, 12/22/2014 ]

Carson: We Are “Very Much Like Nazi Germany…You Had A Government Using Its Tools To Intimidate The Population. We Now Live In A Society Where People Are Afraid To Say What They Actually Believe.” According to the Washington Times: “In a recent public event in New York, Dr. Carson spoke of living ‘in a Gestapo age,’ Mediaite reported. Following, Fox News contributor Mallory Factor asked him to explain. And his response, as quoted on Mediaite: ‘I mean, [we are] very much like Nazi Germany. And I know you’re not supposed to say ‘Nazi Germany,’ but I don’t care about political correctness. You know, you had a government using its tools to intimidate the population. We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe.’” [Washington Times, 3/12/14 ]

Carson: “Most People In Germany Didn’t Agree With What Hitler Was Doing…Exactly The Same Thing Can Happen In This Country If We Are Not Willing To Stand Up For What We Believe In.” According to the Washington Post: “Does he worry that perhaps comparing Obama supporters to Nazi sympathizers may sound like something a bully might do? ‘You can’t dance around it,’ he says. ‘If people look at what I said and were not political about it, they’d have to agree. Most people in Germany didn’t agree with what Hitler was doing. . . . Exactly the same thing can happen in this country if we are not willing to stand up for what we believe in.’” [Washington Post, 8/28/14 ]

Carson Said He Would Not Be “Intimidated” By Those Calling Him A Homophobe Just Because He Believes In The Strength Of “Traditional Marriage.” Dr. Carson told the Weekly Standard: “And if you believe that life begins at conception and that that is a wonderful progression from that fertilized egg to a human being who is active and interactive in only nine months time, then you’re anti-woman. And if you believe in traditional families and the strength of traditional marriage then you have to be a homophobe. And of course none of those things are true by any stretch of the imagination, but by stoking those fires, you shut people up and they’re afraid to say what they believe because they don’t want to be labeled with those labels. It’s intimidation, that’s all it is, intimidation. I’ve just decided that I’m not going to be intimidated, and of course they don’t like that very much. And they’ve tried to intimidate me into silence but it’s just not going to work, because the more they do it, the more vocal I’m going to be.” [Weekly Standard, 5/15/2014 ]

Carson Said That Demanding Marriage Equality “Is Total Intolerance. It Needs To Be Called Out For What It Is.” In an interview with Charisma News, Carson said, “People have to stand up to them. They are being totally intolerant. I asked a prominent member of the gay community what other position could a person take other than fully agreeing to gay marriage that would be acceptable to them. He thought about it for a while and he said that there is no other position; it's my way or the highway. That is total intolerance. It needs to be called out for what it is. You can do anything you want, but nobody gets to completely change things for everybody else.” [Charisma News, 6/19/2014 ]

Carson Said Supporting Same-Sex Marriage Is Like Calling People Who Think Two Plus Two Equals Four, Not Five, “Mathophobes,” And “People Have To Stand Up To Them. They Are Being Totally Intolerant.” According to The Blaze: “Carson compared calls for an amended definition of marriage to a hypothetical scenario in which a ‘new set of mathematicians … come along and say that two plus two is five.’ Instead of accepting that the answer is four, the people in his analogy begin labeling everyone who disagrees with their new conclusion — that the answer to the equation is actually five — as ‘mathophobes’ or ‘mathists.’ ‘Basically, that’s what happened in our society. People have to stand up to them,’ Carson said. ‘They are being totally intolerant.’” [The Blaze, 6/20/2014 ]

Carson Said Of Those Demanding Marriage Equality: “That Sounds A Little Like Intolerance To Me. It Sounds Like My Way Or The Highway.” In an interview with Newsmax, Carson said, “I asked a prominent individual in the gay community ‘well, what position could a person take who believes in traditional marriage that would be satisfactory to you?’ And after thinking about it for a while, he said, ‘There is no other position. You have to embrace gay marriage. That’s the only position that’s acceptable to us.’ That sounds a little like intolerance to me. It sounds like my way or the highway. I think even though gays suffered a lot of discrimination in the past, and I denounce that in the book. I don’t think that’s the right way to treat anybody, but that doesn’t mean that you get to change everything for everybody else.” [Newsmax TV, Midpoint, 6/23/2014 ]

Carson Agreed With Radio Host That Legalized Same-Sex Marriage Would Make It ‘Open Season’ On Christians, Said “Values And Principles Cannot Be Drummed Out Of Us.” According to Talking Points Memo, in an interview with Steve Deace: “Later on in the interview, Carson agreed with Deace that ongoing spread of legalized gay marriage would make it ‘open season on Christians.’ ‘Values and principles cannot be drummed out of us,’ Carson said. ‘They’re going to try, and the only way we maintain a country with values and principles is we have to be brave enough to stand up for what we believe.’” [Talking Points Memo, 1/21/2015 ; AUDIO]

Carson Said We Should Stop Listening To “P.C. Police Who Say Every Lifestyle Is Exactly Of The Same Value.” According to the Huffington Post, asked about single parents, “GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson, calling for a focus on families with ‘traditional, intact values,’ said Wednesday that not ‘every lifestyle is exactly of the same value,’ and attacked what he called the ‘p.c. police.’ ‘We have got to stop paying attention to the 'p.c. police,' who say every lifestyle is exactly of the same value,’ Carson said in an radio interview with Sirius XM. ‘No, it’s not of the same value. It is very clear that intact, traditional families with traditional, intact values do much better in terms of raising children. So let’s stop pretending that everything is of equal value.’” [Huffington Post, 10/7/2015; AUDIO]

Significant Findings on LGBT Adoption

Would not support LGBT couples adopting, saying he wanted to know first how it impacted their sexuality

Lamented what the growing acceptance of nontraditional families and said that they were “tearing down those things that have worked so well for the millennium”

 

Carson Said We Should Stop Listening To “P.C. Police Who Say Every Lifestyle Is Exactly Of The Same Value.” According to the Huffington Post, asked about single parents, “GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson, calling for a focus on families with ‘traditional, intact values,’ said Wednesday that not ‘every lifestyle is exactly of the same value,’ and attacked what he called the ‘p.c. police.’ ‘We have got to stop paying attention to the 'p.c. police,' who say every lifestyle is exactly of the same value,’ Carson said in an radio interview with Sirius XM. ‘No, it’s not of the same value. It is very clear that intact, traditional families with traditional, intact values do much better in terms of raising children. So let’s stop pretending that everything is of equal value.’” [Huffington Post, 10/7/2015; AUDIO]

Carson Said That When It Came To LGBT Adoptions, He’d “Have To Give More Thought To” The Subject. During an interview on CNN’s the Situation Room, when asked if LGBT couples should be allowed to adopt, Carson said, “Well, you know, that's something I'd have to give more thought to. I think it really kind of depends on what the statistics show. If the statistics show that children raised in that kind of a household have no disadvantage whatsoever, have no greater or lesser propensity in terms of their sexuality, then it will very hard to argue against it. If it shows something different, then I think we have to take a serious look at it.” [CNN, 3/29/2013; VIDEO]

Carson Said That When It Came To LGBT Adoptions, We Have To Wait For Time To Go By And “Look At The Evidence.” During an interview on CNN’s the Situation Room, when told the American Academy of Pediatrics reported children were better off in LGBT households than on the street or a “some home,” Carson replied, “Well, I mean, that seems like common sense. Of course you don't want them out on the street or in a place where they're not loved. And, you know, I have several patients who come from homes with two mothers or two fathers who seem to be very loving individuals. But as I've said, the proof will be in the pudding. What we really have to do is wait until, you know, substantial amount of time has gone by. We look at evidence. We make decisions based on evidence, not on ideology.” [CNN, 3/29/2013; VIDEO]

Carson Said, “What Alternative Families have Done Wrong Is Tear Down Those Things That Have Worked So Well For The Millennium…Children Need Two Parents….And Nurturing.” According to the Washington Times: “Dr. Carson, 57, said he worried that the traditional values of faith, family and civic duty have atrophied in the face of society’s anything-goes attitude. ‘We as a nation have to understand that tolerance and acceptance works in all directions,’ Dr. Carson said of the growing acceptance of gay marriage and nontraditional families. ‘It’s not just one way. … It includes traditional things. … What alternative families have done wrong is tear down those things that have worked so well for the millennium. … Children need two parents … and nurturing.’” [Washington Times, 2/1/2009 ]